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but i think -- >> but didn't the governor of pennsylvania say, when they were talking about the voter restrictions in pennsylvania saying, "this is how we're going to win pennsylvania for mitt romney"? >> well, no, there was a state senator who said that. >> excuse me, a state senator. >> this will allow mitt romney to win the election. now, the implication of that is that the suggestion was that there's such pervasive fraud that he wouldn't be able to win without it. i do not think that is correct. but i think that actually when you parse what he was saying i think that's what he meant. and i think that you're actually illustrating my point in a wonderful way. there's so much distrust that, and of course people aren't inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. let's interpret what he said in the most favorable possible light because there is legitimate distrust that is rooted in the fact that these are communities that don't generally talk to each other. >> but you know, i brought you together because both of you from different perspectives have been writing about the people at t
but i think -- >> but didn't the governor of pennsylvania say, when they were talking about the voter restrictions in pennsylvania saying, "this is how we're going to win pennsylvania for mitt romney"? >> well, no, there was a state senator who said that. >> excuse me, a state senator. >> this will allow mitt romney to win the election. now, the implication of that is that the suggestion was that there's such pervasive fraud that he wouldn't be able to win...
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romney lost the state where he was governor, the state where he votes, mass., some pundits have egg all over their faces. what made the difference with this, mark? >> when you run a good campaign, give credit to the campaign. there was an enormous effort. people disparaged the ground game. it was super. is surpassed anything we had seen before. and the president voiced that campaign. at the same time, in a year when americans were furious at pennsylvania avenue and wall street, the republicans chose an investment banker, a private equity, a cayman islands, a swiss bank accounts, by and for clothes businesses. at a time when you needed a chris christie, a guy who will have a shot and a beer with you, and talk to people to get their rent money together, but mitt romney was not it. all of this admirable qualities and his gracious concession speech -- >> chris christie is not exactly the guy you want to raise after this election, the bear hug for obama. some people might have called that a lot dance. that is extremely disturbing. i do not want that image in my mind. he will be quarantined f
romney lost the state where he was governor, the state where he votes, mass., some pundits have egg all over their faces. what made the difference with this, mark? >> when you run a good campaign, give credit to the campaign. there was an enormous effort. people disparaged the ground game. it was super. is surpassed anything we had seen before. and the president voiced that campaign. at the same time, in a year when americans were furious at pennsylvania avenue and wall street, the...
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. >> jon: last week we reported that late night comedians took more shots at governor romney than all democrats combined. >> what are you people doing here? shouldn't you be out celebrating [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm going to bring you the truth. it's been seven years and how do you repay me? four more years of -- >> president obama being re-elected as president of the united states, congratulations! it turns out it's not all bad news for the republican. i guess depression is covered under obamacare. >> after 18 months the election is over. [ applause ] now, we can get back to what is really important. what is the shell going on with bruce jenner's face? >> and long national nightmare is over. we have expressed our will at the polls and we have proved again american democracy is alive and well even though florida was confused as an old person with an iphone. >> are you still watching fox news? this. this is my concession call. blah, blah he did it. >> is everything okay. you seem a little down. >> i really wanted to be president. i was going to create 12 million jobs. >> look, you
. >> jon: last week we reported that late night comedians took more shots at governor romney than all democrats combined. >> what are you people doing here? shouldn't you be out celebrating [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm going to bring you the truth. it's been seven years and how do you repay me? four more years of -- >> president obama being re-elected as president of the united states, congratulations! it turns out it's not all bad news for the republican. i guess...
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( cheers and applause ) of course, on the other side, governor mitt romney broke the bad news to his supporters before reluctantly being asked to pose for his family's yearly christmas card. ( laughter ). that is a good-looking bunch. it's like they-- the people that came in the frames. across the nation, the people spoke, legalizing gay marriage in maine and maryland. legalizing marijuana in washington state, and colorado-- ( cheers and applause ) gay marriage... nothing. ( laughter ). marijuana... bat ( bleep ) crazy. they also legal ides dancing in that town in "footloose." i probably should have looked that up. wisconsin elected tammy baldwin the first openly lesbian senator. sorry, lindsay graham. yeah. you missed the lindsay graham joke. it was a pretty good one. ( laughter ). perhaps the best news was in florida. after months of republican governor rick scott attempting to suppress democratic voter turnout, and attempting to decrease voter discomfort and my favorite introducing a 10-page novelette state ballot to people who couldn't handle a ( bleep ) one-page ballot. florida
( cheers and applause ) of course, on the other side, governor mitt romney broke the bad news to his supporters before reluctantly being asked to pose for his family's yearly christmas card. ( laughter ). that is a good-looking bunch. it's like they-- the people that came in the frames. across the nation, the people spoke, legalizing gay marriage in maine and maryland. legalizing marijuana in washington state, and colorado-- ( cheers and applause ) gay marriage... nothing. ( laughter )....
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it is certainly worth asking after governor romney won among independents but lost the election. don't tell us your answer. after the break tell us and scream it at the television when mark murray joins us with the answers to prove why they may be overrated. be sure to check out the "news nation" tumblr page. you'll find behind the scene pictures at ne newsnation.tumblr.com. welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ honk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. now get a $199 per month lease on a 2013 nissan altima. ♪ now get a $199 per month lease on a 2013 nissan altima. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. something this delicious could only come from nature. now from t
it is certainly worth asking after governor romney won among independents but lost the election. don't tell us your answer. after the break tell us and scream it at the television when mark murray joins us with the answers to prove why they may be overrated. be sure to check out the "news nation" tumblr page. you'll find behind the scene pictures at ne newsnation.tumblr.com. welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] [ male announcer ] now you'll know when...
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the positions of governor romney that he took in the primary on immigration reform. the positions that he took on women's health issues and contraception and planned parenthood drove large numbers of voters away from them, and then on economic, central to this election. they had a theory that frankly was not a popular theory in the country which is that you know, if we go back to tax cuts for the wealthy and deregulation that would profit everyone, and then for romney himself, there were specific things that he did. i think that the decision in the final week to try and litigate the auto bailout again, in ohio, had a tremendously negative impact there, and perhaps beyond ohio. so, you know, in the final analysis, there are a lot of factors here, but in the short-term, that was a very bad decision, in my view. >> people are looking to what happened and saying, look, the senate remains with democrat house with republicans. barack obama re-elected. not much change. how can we expect the washington machine, many consider fractured if not paralyzed to get things done? the
the positions of governor romney that he took in the primary on immigration reform. the positions that he took on women's health issues and contraception and planned parenthood drove large numbers of voters away from them, and then on economic, central to this election. they had a theory that frankly was not a popular theory in the country which is that you know, if we go back to tax cuts for the wealthy and deregulation that would profit everyone, and then for romney himself, there were...
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. >> you see a role for governor romney in this process would you like to see the president bring him into negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> stephanie: he says what now? i'm sorry should the that's the new prom at her of how bipartisan the president's supposed to be, he's supposed to bring in the one who lost by a landslide. >> caller: aren't we supposed to forget the name mitt romney now let him disappear into whatever mormon paradise he's supposed to go to? >> did anyone think president bush don't you think you should bring john kerry in to help with the negotiations? >> caller: how many times did george w. bush bring in al gore for consultation after? >> stephanie: i'm sorry and my head is still exploding. he won in a landslide and gregory is still making my head explode. >> caller: this phantom of bipartisanship that they keep worshiping. at some point you have to say you know what, we have now twice elected the same guy. >> stephanie: by a landslide. >> caller: we want him to do his plan. >> stephanie: say the l. word with us. >> do you think the american people of idiots? s
. >> you see a role for governor romney in this process would you like to see the president bring him into negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> stephanie: he says what now? i'm sorry should the that's the new prom at her of how bipartisan the president's supposed to be, he's supposed to bring in the one who lost by a landslide. >> caller: aren't we supposed to forget the name mitt romney now let him disappear into whatever mormon paradise he's supposed to go to? >> did...
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. >> bret: amazing how governor romney did that it didn't go over too well. >> people are being very generic about this because they still -- what they want to do right now is speak past each other and say we are willing to cooperate and we are willing to compromise. and then they double down on their position in the same sentence. because, it's a starting point for negotiations. so you don't bring your end point to the negotiation. is, we're going to hear this and there is not going to be any movement until after thanksgiving. but we -- you hear from republics is no movement on rates. but they are willing to find revenue other places. what democrats have not done is offer what they would put in exchange for the sequester cuts on the table. haven't heard anything about that they might think taxing millionaires is going to get threw. but it doesn't sound like it. >> sequester cuts, across the board cuts, including defense cuts that many lawmakers have a real problem with both sides of the aisle. >> in contradiction to one of my colleagues. i think republicans have to hold the line on
. >> bret: amazing how governor romney did that it didn't go over too well. >> people are being very generic about this because they still -- what they want to do right now is speak past each other and say we are willing to cooperate and we are willing to compromise. and then they double down on their position in the same sentence. because, it's a starting point for negotiations. so you don't bring your end point to the negotiation. is, we're going to hear this and there is not...
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. >> do you see, senator schumer, very quickly, a role for governor romney in this process? would you like to see the president bring him in to, say, the negotiations over the fiscal cliff? >> well, don't know about that. but i would like to see him speak up. i think you could see him struggling in the general election. the hard right had moved him so far over on issues like immigration. and i didn't think his heart was in it. so he could help. you know, we need forces to help. when either party moves too far over, they lose. democrats too far left, republicans too far right. you need some mainstream republican voices. you need the business community to speak up on the fiscal cliff and the need for revenues. you need people like romney and jeb bush and others to talk about doing a comprehensive immigration reform so that the republicans who have the courage to stand up, and tom coburn has had that courage, don't just hear from the shrill right. and graham is willing to do it on immigration. he's going to say that this morning. we need other people to do the same. >> we will
. >> do you see, senator schumer, very quickly, a role for governor romney in this process? would you like to see the president bring him in to, say, the negotiations over the fiscal cliff? >> well, don't know about that. but i would like to see him speak up. i think you could see him struggling in the general election. the hard right had moved him so far over on issues like immigration. and i didn't think his heart was in it. so he could help. you know, we need forces to help. when...
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this is part of the one-liner used by governor romney at a time that he thought he wasn't going to be taped during a private fund-raising section -- charles: the 47%. >> correct, the 47%. that's a different number than the 47 million that are on food stamps but includes that number. obviously the 47% of americans is a vastly larger number. he's talking about the people who receive all or a substantial part of their income from the government. so he's talking about government employees as well as people that are on social security, medicare, medicaid. charles: that's not what he really meant. >> no, i don't think he meant to disparage those people. charles: the gist is there are a whole lot of people on that and they have no reason to change leadership. >> correct. the reason he can say that -- i don't know if he articulated this is that when the government takes money from us whenever we get our paychecks, fdr said it would hold -- his word, i'm saying that in quotes -- money for us in a savings account. in fact it doesn't hold that money for us. that money goes directly into the trea
this is part of the one-liner used by governor romney at a time that he thought he wasn't going to be taped during a private fund-raising section -- charles: the 47%. >> correct, the 47%. that's a different number than the 47 million that are on food stamps but includes that number. obviously the 47% of americans is a vastly larger number. he's talking about the people who receive all or a substantial part of their income from the government. so he's talking about government employees as...
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even facebook's giving the governor a cold shoulder. so ath rsaturday romney was los 593 friends per hour. and someone else the party is trying to defriend. the $300 million man, karl rove. everyone is still talking about his on air election night meltdown. and it's not just donors who are piling on. he's getting needled in the opening credits of the simpsons. ♪ the simpsons >> i will not concede the election until karl rove gives me permission. and here is how you know it's bad for the former gop king maker. snl is piling on. >> hello, mitt. >> hello, karl rove. >> i still think you you can win ohio. now might not be the best time, but could i were borrow $300 million? is it possible -- i'm okay. >> all jokes aside, what we're seeing is a republican party that has a silver wand in his hands. the blame is being passed all around. rove, the mopollsterses, rechb rush limbaugh. how will it end. thank you both if being here. dana, let me start with you. rove is at the he center of a gop civil car. will he end up being the scapegoat? >> th
even facebook's giving the governor a cold shoulder. so ath rsaturday romney was los 593 friends per hour. and someone else the party is trying to defriend. the $300 million man, karl rove. everyone is still talking about his on air election night meltdown. and it's not just donors who are piling on. he's getting needled in the opening credits of the simpsons. ♪ the simpsons >> i will not concede the election until karl rove gives me permission. and here is how you know it's bad for the...
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wow. >>> up next, the campaign ad that may have done the most damage to mitt romney this election and has nothing to do with jeep. that's ahead. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. like you, are choosing advil® because it helps you keep doing what you love. no wonder it's america's #1 selling pain reliever. you took action, you took advil®. and we thank you. you took action, you took advil®. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so don't wait. call your doctor right away. tamiflu is prescription medicine for treating the flu in adults and children one year and older whose flu symptoms started within the last two days. before taking tamiflu tell your doctor if you're pregnant, nursing. have serious health conditions, or take other medicines. if you develop an allergic reaction, a severe rash, or signs of unusual behavior
wow. >>> up next, the campaign ad that may have done the most damage to mitt romney this election and has nothing to do with jeep. that's ahead. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. like you, are choosing advil® because it helps you keep doing what you love. no wonder it's america's #1 selling pain reliever. you took action, you took advil®. and we thank you. you took action, you took advil®. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with...
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and have to play by the rules in terms of -- you know, governor romney was criticized for this buddies right, there's got to be a level playing field. and the chinese need to understand that. so it's i think part of this tension that's going to have to be worked out in our policy. >> do we have a question or two from the audience? if so, it up to the mic. we will take both of you. >> you mentioned -- >> introduce yourself. >> world affairs council. you mentioned regarding specifically syria, not our role might be to help the opposition organized and become more democratic. i imagine you might have the same prescription for other arab spring rebellions. my question is how can we help them to become more democratic? >> do you mind if we take both and then we'll go with the concluding question. yes, and introduce yourself. >> good morning. my name is jack from traverse city michigan. in your very interesting exchange with a bass tournament in foreign about afghanistan, you make a very strong case that we need a political transition in 2014, but what i don't see in any other writings on th
and have to play by the rules in terms of -- you know, governor romney was criticized for this buddies right, there's got to be a level playing field. and the chinese need to understand that. so it's i think part of this tension that's going to have to be worked out in our policy. >> do we have a question or two from the audience? if so, it up to the mic. we will take both of you. >> you mentioned -- >> introduce yourself. >> world affairs council. you mentioned...
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governor romney 49.1% of the vote, a slim 74,000 votes divided the two candidates. the win gave the president eight of the nine critical swing states. he only lost to mitt romney north carolina. gregg: well, new signs that democrats and republicans could be moving toward a compromise deal, well at least they're talking about it, to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. major tax hikes across the board spending cuts, set to automatically go into effect at the end of the year. on "face the nation", senior obama advisor david axelrod discussing how both sides seem to be moving closer to a key sticking point. >> speaker boehner seemed to suggest that he was open to closing loopholes, to real tax reform. can you get there by just closing loopholes, or will it take more than that? >> well, look, i don't want to prejudge the discussions. i think that the speaker's comments have been encouraging and there is obviously money to be gained by closing some of these, closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. there are a lot of ways to skin this cat. gre
governor romney 49.1% of the vote, a slim 74,000 votes divided the two candidates. the win gave the president eight of the nine critical swing states. he only lost to mitt romney north carolina. gregg: well, new signs that democrats and republicans could be moving toward a compromise deal, well at least they're talking about it, to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. major tax hikes across the board spending cuts, set to automatically go into effect at the end of the year. on "face the...
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. >> the reports that you and governor romney and your wives were shocked by the results that were coming in, true? >> it is true. the polling we had, the numbers we were looking at looked like we stood a pretty good chance of winning and so when the numbers came in going the other direction, we saw the kind of turnout that was occurring in urban areas, which are fairly unpret dented, it did come as a bit of a shock. >> speaking with a reporter of our cnn affiliate, wisn in milwaukee. >>> still ahead, why would marijuana smokers mug for the cameras? jeanne moos is looking into it, next. [ ross ] the streets of monaco, home of the legendary grand prix circuit. the perfect place to bring the all-new cadillac ats to test the 2.0-liter turbo engine. [ engine revs ] ♪ [ derek ] 272 horsepower. the lightest in its class. the cadillac ats outmatches the bmw 3 series. i cannot believe i have ended the day not scraping some red paint off on these barriers. ♪ [ male announcer ] the all-new cadillac ats. so i brought it to mike at meineke. we gave her car a free road handling check. i like free.
. >> the reports that you and governor romney and your wives were shocked by the results that were coming in, true? >> it is true. the polling we had, the numbers we were looking at looked like we stood a pretty good chance of winning and so when the numbers came in going the other direction, we saw the kind of turnout that was occurring in urban areas, which are fairly unpret dented, it did come as a bit of a shock. >> speaking with a reporter of our cnn affiliate, wisn in...
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again where we have an election, there are 30 republican governors. okay. and they are running campaigns against raising taxes and in favor of frankly phasing out the income tax in north carolina and kansas and oklahoma. >> those are state issues. speaker boehner -- >> tissues are clear. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. would you accept new revenue and would members that have signed your no tax pledge be allowed to accept new revenue? >> well of course the pledge is to the american people not me. so you don't need my permission to vote. they made a commitment to the people in their state. you can get more revenue through economic growth if you grow at 4% a year instead of 2% a year. the government will get $5 trillion in additional revenue. i rather do growth than raise taxes which slows the economy and damages things. obama is not interested in taxing the rich. he admits there's no money there. he runs a $6.7 trillion debt assuming he raises taxes on high income people. his goal as you saw from the election is raise energy
again where we have an election, there are 30 republican governors. okay. and they are running campaigns against raising taxes and in favor of frankly phasing out the income tax in north carolina and kansas and oklahoma. >> those are state issues. speaker boehner -- >> tissues are clear. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. would you accept new revenue and would members that have signed your no tax pledge be allowed to accept new revenue? >>...
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you were obviously going for governor mitt romney. what's your answer to him? >> you know, i tweeted a lot about brian and i tweeted very negative things about brian. i said that the nbc nightly news has become very, very boring, which it has. and he was critical of that. and it has become very boring. and a couple of other things. so he actually, i picked up 197, 137,000 followers after he and others mentioned what i did, my little attack on brian. the funny thing is, when i tweeted about brian, nobody cared. they were more interested in patterson and kristen stewart. they didn't care about brian inasmuch such is twitterverse. >> brian: it was a great compliment. right in the middle of the election, he starts reading my tweets. >> steve: speaking of the election, how do you think mitt romney ran his campaign? >> well, i think he's a wonderful guy. i think he's a nice guy, but he should have been tougher. he should have been out there more. he should have been on your show a lot. he should have been on lots of other shows and say what you want about obama, he w
you were obviously going for governor mitt romney. what's your answer to him? >> you know, i tweeted a lot about brian and i tweeted very negative things about brian. i said that the nbc nightly news has become very, very boring, which it has. and he was critical of that. and it has become very boring. and a couple of other things. so he actually, i picked up 197, 137,000 followers after he and others mentioned what i did, my little attack on brian. the funny thing is, when i tweeted...
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but the romney campaign never got to that. the other issue that ax thought really could have worked for romney is bipartisanship, to talk about how, as a republican governor and democratic state, he made it work. the romney campaign got to that late, probably too late. >> first debate. >> yeah, and mike, you also asked him what the biggest gift to the campaign was. was it the tape? was it the 47% tape? >> there was that, and he said they also made a terrible mistake at the end with that jeep commercial that we saw here on "morning joe" that had two automobile ceos coming out and calling romney who was supposed to be the business guy, the michigan native, calling him a liar basically. >> mike allen. >> that's not good. >> with a look at the "politico playbook." mike, thanks so much. >> at his age. >> for 102, he's good-looking. >> i tell you what. >> if i'm looking that good five or six years from now when i'm 102, i'll be happy. >> you know what it is? it's all that gingham pinafore. what is that? i don't know that what was. i
but the romney campaign never got to that. the other issue that ax thought really could have worked for romney is bipartisanship, to talk about how, as a republican governor and democratic state, he made it work. the romney campaign got to that late, probably too late. >> first debate. >> yeah, and mike, you also asked him what the biggest gift to the campaign was. was it the tape? was it the 47% tape? >> there was that, and he said they also made a terrible mistake at the end...
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we saw mitt romney back at his headquarters, but what the thinking is going through personally? guest: it's tough. he ran before in 2008. for him, this has been a very personal journey to endure what he had to indoor with respect to his face, the assaults on that, the assaults on his character and integrity, assault on his integrity as a governor to lead. it's very personal. you have to find that space and get in that space where you really stand aside and say that's the politics of it, but it's hard to do. thank you for your run. you bested a big field of republicans, he weathered the storm, and you put together a very strong field. that first debate in september was one of the strongest by had ever seen. he was the governor of his state and i was lieutenant governor and we became close in our association. he was a guy i was always looking for. i would see glimmers of him and it's very frustrating that people around him thought he needed to appeal a certain way. he would have to say things that you know he did not necessarily think was part of the corps. i get the frustration n
we saw mitt romney back at his headquarters, but what the thinking is going through personally? guest: it's tough. he ran before in 2008. for him, this has been a very personal journey to endure what he had to indoor with respect to his face, the assaults on that, the assaults on his character and integrity, assault on his integrity as a governor to lead. it's very personal. you have to find that space and get in that space where you really stand aside and say that's the politics of it, but...